Professor Patricia Marino's book Moral Reasoning in a Pluralistic World makes philosophical thought about ordinary aspects of modern life clear and meaningful for any reader. In this interview with editor Mark Abley, she talks about the questions explored in the book.
Mark Abley (MA): Moral Reasoning in a Pluralistic World tackles a few major topics in philosophy, but does so in a style that is more lucid and accessible than most books that come out of Philosophy Departments. Are you hoping to attract an audience beyond other philosophers?
Patricia Marino (PM): Yes, very much so! Philosophy is sometimes seen as abstract and irrelevant to the real world, but in my opinion philosophy is intimately connected to many ordinary, everyday life concerns. Over time it’s become one of my goals to do philosophy in a way that highlights these connections and engages non-specialists as readers.
In , I made it a point to write in a straightforward style, and to use many specific examples — like abortion, medical testing in developing countries, and lying to protect secrets. Interestingly, I often find that writing in a non-technical style and using real-life examples affect the way I frame questions and even the conclusions that I come to. There’s something about coming face-to-face with a real-life issue that forces you to think in a certain down-to-earth sort of way.
MA: Do you believe that pluralism is itself a value? Or is it merely a fact of life?
PM: That’s an interesting question. One kind of pluralism is value pluralism. This is the idea that we value a range of different things: we care about honesty, but also about not hurting others. We care about abstract values such as fairness, but we also care more about our friends and family than about others. We care about human rights, but we also care about bringing about good consequences.
As I explain in the book, I believe that moral disagreements often arise even among people who share values, because they interpret and prioritize among those values in different ways. For example, we might agree that honesty is important, and that fidelity is important, but disagree over when, exactly, a lie might be justified to protect others.
As I see it, caring about multiple, possibly conflicting things is part of our humanity: it’s essential to who we are. For this reason I would say that it is something we should value and not merely tolerate. Even though it can lead to deep disagreement, and thus to practical difficulties, I see it as a positive thing.
MA: If living in a pluralistic world implies that we need to take many different viewpoints into consideration, is moral reasoning always at risk of incoherence?
PM: At a basic level, no — absolutely not. In my consideration of moral reasoning, I focus on how someone who values various conflicting things can aim to make their moral beliefs coherent. In moral reasoning, coherence asks that we make our beliefs fit together, to universalize our judgments, and to avoid arbitrary distinctions.
It’s
often
thought
that
value
pluralism
is
a
problem
for
moral
coherence,
leading
to
moral
dilemmas,
a
need
for
subjective
judgments,
and
ad
hoc
reasoning.
I
disagree,
though.
I
see
moral
dilemmas
not
as
evidence
of
bad
moral
thinking,
but
rather
as
essential
aspects
of
our
moral
lives.
I
also
think
that
morality
always
rests
on
some
subjective
judgments.
So
I
articulate
a
form
of
coherence
that
is
compatible
with
conflicts
and
with
value
pluralism.
My
“pluralist
coherence”
is
based
on
judging
similarly
cases
that
are
morally
similar.
In
this
sense,
plurality
and
conflict
are
no
threat
to
coherence.
MA:
Can
you
explain
what
you
mean
in
the
book
by
the
interesting
phrase
“rich
coherence”?
PM: Some
ethical
theorists
believe
that
coherence
requires
unifying
our
values
and
finding
a
single
principle
to
use
in
all
cases.
For
example,
the
ethical
theory
of
utilitarianism
proposes
that
all
actions
should
be
judged
according
to
whether
they
produce
the
best
overall
consequences.
It’s
like
an
ethical
cost-benefit
analysis.
We
see
utilitarianism
at
work
around
us,
when
cost-benefit
analysis
is
treated
as
a
common-sense
guide
to
policy.
But
famously,
utilitarianism
is
incompatible
with
taking
values
like
justice,
fairness,
and
liberty
as
fundamental.
I
show
that
this
way
of
interpreting
coherence
as
unification
—
which
I
call
“rich
coherence”
—
is
not
only
impossible
to
justify
as
correct,
it
also
leads
to
bad
moral
reasoning.
At
its
worst,
it
requires
us
to
discard
much
of
what
we
value
most,
for
no
good
reason.
MA:
Was
it
easy
for
philosophers
in
past
centuries,
living
as
they
did
in
much
more
monolithic
societies,
to
make
ethical
judgments
in
straightforward
ways
that
cultural,
religious
and
social
diversity
make
difficult
for
philosophers
today?
PM: Yes,
I
think
so!
But
richly
coherent
theories
are
also
surprisingly
common
among
ethical
theorists
today.
One
of
the
things
I
found
in
writing
this
book
is
that
there’s
an
interesting
disconnect
between
ethical
theory
and
ethics
in
practice.
In
ethical
theory,
it’s
often
thought
that
it’s
important
to
have
a
unified
view.
One
that,
like
utilitarianism,
is
based
on
a
single
principle,
entailing
a
single
set
of
right
answers.
In
applied
ethics
—
such
as
bioethics
—
practitioners
are
more
likely
to
put
forward
a
range
of
different
considerations,
such
as
benevolence,
justice,
and
respect
for
autonomy,
and
then
to
acknowledge
that
the
task
of
balancing
these
competing
concerns
is
where
the
action
is.
From
the
applied
point
of
view,
this
balancing
requires
judgment
and
often
must
proceed
in
an
open-ended
and
flexible
way.
In
the
book
I
outline
a
theoretical
approach
that
shows
how
these
applied
practitioners
are
absolutely
right.
MA: Are
most
people’s
beliefs,
attitudes
and
understandings
truly
arrived
at
by
the
use
of
reason?
If
many
of
them
are
reached
without
much
or
any
use
of
reason,
does
that
explain
why
convictions
are
usually
so
hard
to
change?
PM: People are often struck by the particular bitterness and futility that seems to characterize a lot of public debate over moral issues. Some researchers — like the psychologist Jonathan Haidt — think that it’s like this because people in general are bad at moral reasoning: rather than having a thought-out position, they are basing their opinions mostly on gut reactions. But personally I’ve often noticed the opposite: how often people do come up with moral arguments, both in support of their own views and against those of others. In the abortion debate, for example, there’s no shortage of back-and-forth, and this back-and-forth frequently appeals to obviously moral matters, like the nature of personhood and the extent of autonomy rights.
I mentioned before that disagreements can happen because people interpret and prioritize values differently. In those kinds of cases, I believe it is possible for people’s different opinions to be based in different values in a basic and fundamental way.
When there are basic value disagreements, it’s possible for people to be reasoning well and still have entrenched and persistent differences of opinion. As I see it, in these cases moral change has to happen in other ways: not through reasoning and arguments, but rather through social, cultural, and emotional changes. From this perspective, stories and art are more important than any exchange of reason and arguments.